Their target us set at 144,200. Have you served in either regulars or reserves? Don’t think George does much of that given the political rants that break out here, and to which I am guilty as anyone else. Not surprising given employment in the U.K. is at an all time high with the unemployment rate down to 4%, the lowest figure in decades. Army Order 338 of August 1920 stated that army numbers would now be issued from one … This search tool can match army numbers from the 1920's to the end of World War 2 which was based on the regiment that a soldier joined initially, and the post war numbering system which is army wide. UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945. "This change will enable the Army to meet the SDSR 15 commitment to support UK resilience" – the change enables the Army to say its size is currently 79,160. Many Are attracted by toys! It was described as taking a bunch of disorganised unfit untrained and unmotivated yobs and turning them into organised, fit, trained and motivated yobs. WO1 are the senior advisors of their unit's Commanding Officer, with leadership, discipline and welfare responsibilities of up to 650 officers and soldiers and equipment. As always when he speaks, I think Sir Humphrey might have had a point…, Times have changed. Unfortunately, unemployment figures can’t be considered reliable anymore. Reservists generally were used to back up at the lower end by assisting the Police guarding Strategic points, on Border Patrol and in the Townships to deal with Civil unrest. Personal numbers can usually be found quickly on the London Gazette, while it’s often impossible to find an army number. “The figures are historical”. See below each regiment’s allocated block of numbers, as follows: • Royal Army Service Corps 1 - 294000 and 10660001 - 11000000 • The Life Guards 294001 - 304000 • … The British Army Military Book of the Year (#BAMBY) is the Army's own annual literary prize. Prior to this time army personnel would have a number unique to their Regiment with a prefix. Would love your thoughts, please comment. Not really surprising these figures, when the military are constantly cut. Labour’s Shadow Defence Secretary Nia Griffith described the figures as “shocking”, accusing Conservative Ministers of having “no plan whatsoever to stem this appalling decline”. — Henry Jones (@hthjones) February 21, 2019. Royal Army Service Corps 1 - 294000 and 10660001 - 11000000 The Life Guards 294001 - 304000 Royal Horse Guards 304001 - 309000 Cavalry of the Line 309001 - 721000 (Inclusive 558471 to 558761 allocated to the Royal Armoured Corps extraordinary to the block of numbers later allocated) I really don’t feel that people should be forced to perform conscription. The British Army’s full-time size has fallen to just 75,880 personnel, over 6,000 below its government set target, according to new figures. The British Armed Forces, also known as Her Majesty's Armed Forces, are the military services responsible for the defence of the United Kingdom, its overseas territories and the Crown dependencies. Soldiers in the British Army are given an eight-digit number, e.g. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2018/11/12/working-9-to-5-how-we-count-unemployment-and-what-the-numbers-show/. Time-dare I say to bring back Conscription on a very limited scale? An example here is Israel there are extremely high political and economic costs to ordering that type of mobilization. Poor strategy. This would mean activating the Reserves which under this type of system are built up by conscription classes mustering out of their time. If you’re research… I wasn’t actually questioning it from that point of view though. Capita have only one job; to make money for its shareholders. The ‘full-time trained strength’ of the armed forces – all personnel that have completed full training – is currently at 134,990. Young men are attracted by thought of going into action. Hi Daniele-38 degrees C in Durban tomorrow-Cheers!! Links. A cut to Army numbers has not been ruled out in a shake-up of military operations. I believe your due for record February temps Daniele! The British Army was renumbered in 1920. Army Numbers After 1920. A number of other letter prefixes were used during the war but the above description covers most instances. Not “ditch” => “with” Bloody predictive text ?‍♂️, Not “ditch” -> but “with” Predictive text… ?‍♂️. However, come all out war, I feel they should be called up if necessary. To simplify the system, after the war, the British Army allotted each officer a personal number and each soldier who served in the ranks an army number which was unique to them. 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Admins may or may not choose to remove the comment or block the author. The British Army’s full-time size has fallen to just 75,880 personnel, over 6,000 below its government set target, according to new figures. Although I doubt conscripts would be put in harms way unless there was a full out major war; then we would perhaps all be conscripted… Read more », Calculate the likelihood of someone dying in training and that is the basic level of risk you are asking. Durban at 38 Deg in February is awful-high humidity and searing sun. In South Africa in the 60’s the military operated a Ballot system with names “drawn from a hat”. It relied on militia organised by local officials or private forces mobilised by the nobility, or on hired mercenaries from Europe. I think they are slowly waking up to the mess Crapita have made of recruitment- hopefully they will end the contract soon. As for people attempting to use their connections to escape service? Totally agree. Figures are for trained and untrained personnel and include small numbers of Full Time Reserves. 25,000 ‘names’ don’t equate to trained, equipped and ready to deploy personel. By contrast, over 14,700 people have left in the last 12 months. But surely those taxes are people’s way of paying to be protected by the armed services, ie they don’t want to serve themselves and we are better served by them doing the job they do, which allows the funding of the military through their taxes. It’s not rocket science….is it? Make the law unambiguous and the choice simple. Until the English Civil War, England never had a standing army with professional officers and careerist corporals and sergeants. In Iraq and Afghanistan the Guard made up more than quarter of the deployed troops at various points in time. The RN seems to understand this with the idea of forward basing ships and rotating crews periodically. And no positive outcomes. All of this was based on 6 weeks(from memory) of basic training. In the UK Reservists with… Read more ». Sadly gives HMG even more reason to cut as they can then claim the people are not there. The most senior soldier rank in the British Army, typically reached after 18 years of outstanding service. But Afghanistan and Iraq have done a lot to dissuade many. British army service numbers, that were in use until fairly recently, were introduced post WWI in August 1920 (Army Order 338). A Ministry of Defence spokesperson however defended the figures, saying: “We are fully committed to improving our recruitment process and we are working with Capita to ensure any challenges are being addressed. Who wants to waste a year of their life to do something they really don’t want to? Find the contacts you need for recruitment, media enquiries and more. From what I hear Army Reserve numbers are a question of civil service smoke and mirrors ….. They point out that the Army has conducted a full review of their recruitment strategy and that soldier applications are now at a five year high. A Notification of Impending Release, a document relating to demobilization also frequently survives. In other words not much more than any industrial profession. Joining the military isn’t fashionable. This blog aims to guide the researcher through the maze of regimental numbers issued by the British Army between 1881 and 1918. Both though it was a while ago. In addition, a soldier would not receive a new number if they were transferred to a different regiment or corps, as they now kept the same number throughout their service. In contrast, from 1812 to 1815 (second war with Great Britain), 1846 to 1848 (war with Mexico), 1861 to 1890 (American civil war and wars with the plains Indians), and 1898-1899 (war with Spain) authorized company strength ranged from over 100 officers and men up to a high of 119. Notable cases include: We are the coalition lead support for the Afghan National Army Offcer Academy which has trained around 16 UK Defence in Numbers UK Defence in Numbers 17 We’ve helped to train over 94,000 Iraqi Security Forces. I haven’t. Give more insight into working with heavy armour, show what an engineering crew does in the aircraft hanger of a QE, advertise the state of the airy weapons systems. You can flag a comment by clicking its flag icon. Did it work? Exactly geoff. My reasons for not seeing a difference between requiring compulsory education, taxes for social services that everyone in the end benefits from such as roads, police and social security payments and required compulsory service. For February not bad here in England either. One would think that out of approximately 20 million(at a guess) suitable candidates in the UK 30 000 would not be too much to ask!! This is partly due to there having been enough volunteers in the past who actually wanted to serve, but times have changed. The British army is facing huge cuts, in the latest round of spending details. He has a particular focus on recruitment, mental health, and industry news. They do 19-27 days of training a year but could be asked… Read more », Antidote-Hear what you say in your last sentence. When you put all the details together, the military might need up to another 20,000 personnel, regular and reserves plus a higher level of trainee’s at any given time. I’ve always ignored that figure, instead choosing to focus on the number of personnel who are ACTUALLY trained: 75,880…. T he British Armed Forces has around 144,000 trained active personnel.. Pre 1920's, soldiers had regimental numbers so this … How can you expect young men and women to commit to the services, when even medium employment can’t be guaranteed. A real waste of time. In 2018/19 we signed 23 new Foreign Military Sales agreements with the USA for a total value of $328 million. Prior to 1920, each regiment issued their own service numbers which were unique only within that regiment, so the same number could be issued many times in different regiments. Was it ever though? Interesting. As for the number 527530, the only trace i can find for that is a Cadet Force officer from the 90s named Stubbs. No medical deferments there are plenty jobs to do in the Army not all of them technically require all of your limbs. I believe I read somewhere the RN and RAF figures are not quite as dismal. The Armed Forces continues to meet all of its operational commitments to keep Britain safe.”. The amount of time spent on annual exercises. “At a time when our country faces growing security challenges, it is simply unacceptable for the Government to be running down our Armed Forces in this way.”. However, an army number was unique … The Ministry of Defence’s latest personnel statistics also revealed that the Armed Forces as a whole is over 9,000 personnel short of its 2020 target, set after the last Strategic Defence and Security Review in 2015. After all one should never expect a free lunch. Generally being messed about. We have to advertise in a more enticing way, many will be far more attracted by showing the public the fantastic world leading kit they could be working on or operating, rather than the emotional care stuff we have seen of late. Indian Army officers had numbers mostly prefixed by 'IA', so that number doesn't fit any British system that I'm aware of. Computer games the culprit? Yes, there is terrorism, cyberwarfare and counterintelligence happenig all the time, but I doubt they register in people’s minds as being war. Serve in the Military or if a conscientious objector hard labor. They were given the additional prefix “K”. Cheers(before the Editor deletes us for off subject!). I think conscription is a no go. Also I agree with your point of conscription. The Army Service Numbers Database. Any figures for “Territorials”? Ten times as many die from heroin overdoses per year than have done from terrorism in over a decade. There would be ways of getting out of it, especially for those with the right conenctions. All despite Brexit ? That’s why it’s best to go to the independent Office for National Statistics where you’d find your definition is wrong. What’s the incentive? Pension Cut X2 in 10 years to the lowest in over 40y Progression slowed under NEM 2020. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, UK ‘no intention’ of developing lethal autonomous weapons, British firm delivers first Robotic Combat Vehicle to US Army, UK reveals post-Brexit military co-operation with EU, Britain begins vaccinating citizens against COVID19, UK and Israel sign military cooperation agreement, https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2018/11/12/working-9-to-5-how-we-count-unemployment-and-what-the-numbers-show/, Common myths about shipbuilding in Scotland, New long-range air defence radar delivered to UK, Both carriers to undergo ‘remedial work’ to prevent flooding. The official definition of being ‘in work’ is one hour of paid work per fortnight I believe. The Army 2020 plan calls for 82,000 trained regular personnel and 30,000 trained reserves – an army consisting of 112,000 personnel. A number of men were transferred from the army (new recruits who had joined Kitchener’s Army) in 1914. Rather, I don’t expect someone to die going to school, but that same someone may die from doing conscription. Any information on British Army recruitment, basic entry requirements and how to apply can be found on the Army Careers page. Henry is a Defence & Security writer at the UK Defence Journal. I’ve always wondered about the Army Reserve/Territorials. With too many jobs chasing too few people, the government needs to make a career in the military more attractive to potential recruits. Discover more on our British Army Supporting Education website. The RAF total stood at … Army numbers often appear on both envelopes and letters sent by and to the soldier. And – playing devils advocate – did you see the episode of Yes Prime Minister where they discussed this. A surviving document which is often found within the family is an Army Book 64 Soldier’s Service and Pay Book. Get in touch. In my dads case i think it was 6 months. British Army casualty lists, 1939–1945. A soldier’s life. Oh, well that’s all right then! The Army Service Numbers database is a database of British Army regimental numbers. The Army Service Numbers database is a database of British Army regimental numbers. The amount of time spent on regular refresher training. If you're interested in talking to us about what we could offer your school or college, please contact our outreach team on RG-NRCOutreachAdmin@mod.gov.uk or call us on 0345 600 8080. If done right it sticks with you. Get in touch “He is such a polite and gentle boy, he always does what he is told and wouldnt say Boo to a goose”. It was very much a curate’s egg. Website admin will know that you reported it. Regular or Reserves? The TA was never much of anything even during the Cold War. From what i have seen, the figures are around 25,000 fully – trade trained, but of course they are looking for around 30,000. The RN and RAF offer the uniform but with safer and ‘cleaner’ jobs with better conditions than you find in the field. The Army Service Numbers Database. It’s only through good rates of pay and attractive carrier paths that these numbers will eventually turn around. Army Book of the Year 2020. It’s 35,000 reservists they finally agreed on, but they ain’t anywere near that yet, but atleast the reservists are being trained to a higher standard now and can easily fit into th army structure. Search the daily British Army casualty lists (WO 417) on Findmypast.co.uk (£). They recorded an individual’s rank and regiment, service number, birth place, occupation, attestation date and … They then complete the predeplyment training with the regulars. Too many defence reviews and the inevitable cuts that follow. Maybe also young people guilty of lesser crimes and suitable for rehabilitation could be offered time in the Army in lieu of punishment. Most Junior Staff feel lied to and demoralised after being given the above shit sandwich. All soldiers were given a unique 7 digit number which remained with them throughout their service career. Army numbers down for eighth consecutive year. Not only that but loads dodge the draft. All our wars take place abroad. They state the individuals’ rank, service number, date of becoming a casualty and type of casualty. A spokesperson also told the UK Defence Journal that “the figures in the report are historical and it can take time to see long term improvements captured in the recruitment data, particularly from a soldier’s application through to trained strength capability”. Taking Russia as an example, many who have done conscription say it’s a waste of time, ie they end up doing a lot of nothing much and for kopecks and say it’s badly organised. So the price wouldn’t be paid by everyone. In addition a series of army numbers from 558,471 to 558,761, were allotted to personnel enlisted for the Royal Armoured Corps. Who needs working class “ruffians” when you can recruit slim wristed Julian from Brighton. Conscription and Reserves can work very well it all depends on the following factors: For ANG/Reserves 1. Just 11,090 people have joined the regular armed forces in the last 12 months, a fall of 15% from the previous 12 month period. Defence sources said ‘tough decisions have to be made’ despite the UK … Sad-more so because time spent in the Armed Forces had a much wider appeal in the”old days”. Anything that involves public sector and big business is a bad idea. An example is shown below. 2. Won’t happen though. The British army is on course to miss its targets for the number of recruits it should have by 2020. Makes it a pretty meaningless metric for anything other than shiny headlines. The Devonshire Regiment was allocated numbers 5,608,001-5,662,000. How well was initial training done. One weekend a month was the stated goal of the US ANG 3. Lack of an existential threat. Airy seems OK considering the rainbow coloured unicorns the MOD seem obsessed with recruiting. 25232301. If a reservest is to deploy operationally they are mobilised and become fall time soldiers sometime before deploying. All Military in the Card Catalogue I think there are around 25,000 Army Reserves – fully trained currently. It is this number that you need when applying for a post 1920 Service Record. A system of three months of basic military training so people can learn basic life and military skills but in no way would be made to go to war would be a more realistic form of conscription. 2 weeks a year was the stated goal for deades. We should have invaded the country where they grow the most poppies………. Others. What… Read more », Universal conscription to gain the franchise would be the closest means to attaining a even start. Despite the figures, the Ministry of Defence remain confident their shortfalls can be rectified. BASE While preforming missions with same efficiency… Read more ». Again looking at the South African example, the balloted Military service was initially 6 months and slowly escalated as the conflicts in Southern Africa escalated-9 months, a year, 2 years. © Site contents copyright QARANC.co.uk 2006 - 2020 All rights reserved. A conscript is only put at risk if the the Nation votes to engage in a military that the cadre of Active forces cannot handle. Army jobs website delivered 52 months late There were smaller declines for the RAF and navy but they also failed to meet their target strength. No. I would question, “There is little moral difference in the between the two” though maybe. So the risk to… Read more », Conscription wouldn’t be equal for all though. For most people, especially the next of kin, it is easier to provide a date of birth than an army number. These cover British Army officers, other ranks and nurses. But more ideas, along ditch a simple increase in remuneration, is required. Army Number Search Tool. Pay Cuts 10y running. Not suggesting a return to the Black and Tans but needs some imaginative thinking! Data released by the Ministry of Defence under freedom of information laws shows the number of soldiers in the British army’s infantry regiments has declined steadily over the … At the heart of the plan is a proposal to sharply boost the number of reservists to make up for a 20 per cent cut in the regular army. The planning was from memory to have 30 000 Army reservists to compensate for the cuts in the Regular Army. I just simply fail to see a difference between a war and a “peace” where the Army and Marine Corps are constantly deployed in shitholes around the world where they take casualties.… Read more ». They also promote the UK's wider interests, support international peacekeeping efforts and provide humanitarian aid. United Kingdom. From the later Middle Ages until the English Civil War, when a foreign expeditionary force was needed, such as the one that Henry V of England took to France and that fought at the Battle of Agincourt(1415), the army, a professional one, was raised for the duration of … For other ranks this was originally a seven digit number and then increased to eight. WO 97 – Chelsea: pensioners British Army service records 1760-1913 These records were collected and recorded to determine a person’s eligibility for a pension from the Royal Chelsea Hospital. But ‘yes’ I think those are the correct numbers, up from some 19,000. I’m in Surrey so I will bring the Kebabs! If it had to mobilise tomorrow, nowhere near 25, 000 could be called upon. © 2014-2019 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. Prospects very bleak Ref: AFCAS for the last 9y Over worked, Under Paid, Completely Unappreciated, Undermanned by 6000 SP. However, we are not being invaded by enemy soldiers right now on our shores, so the general public probably doesn’t consider us at war in the sense they would feel a need to do conscription or voluntarily join up. This blog aims to guide the researcher through the maze of regimental numbers issued by the British Army between 1881 and 1918. The 2020 ‘s are going to be so crucial to the UK armed forces, when it comes to personnel numbers and the new equipment. This database contains a listing of World War II British prisoners of war. Poor conditions (in the patrol bases). And of course remove the privatisation of the recruitment process that slows down the response rate to applications to a snails pace. Instead i think children should be “conscripted” in to the scouts or over similar youth groups to lern life skills. Information listed about the soldiers includes: name, rank, branch of the armed forces, regiment, POW number, and camp information. 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